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CNAME / TXT

Jukka Pakkanen

Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…

Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:

C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi named.harriot

dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi: CNAME and other data

dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error

zone harriot.fi/IN: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data

zone harriot.fi/IN: not loaded due to errors.

;

;    File:      named.harriot

;

 

$TTL 864

 

@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (

         202008243      ; serial number

             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours

              7200      ; retry after 2 hours

            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks

              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days

 

harriot.fi.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi.

 

www                IN A 35.214.111.143

api                     IN A 35.214.111.143

webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi.

_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.

 

dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143

 

; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org ~all

 

; smtp_domainkey.mg             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"

 





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Re: CNAME / TXT

Ben Croswell
If you uncomment that mg CNAME you end up with a CNAME mx and TXT at the same node in to the DNS tree and that is illegal. That is why you get the error "cname and other data". The mx and txt are the other data. 

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 8:19 PM Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…

Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:

C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi named.harriot

dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi: CNAME and other data

dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error

zone harriot.fi/IN: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data

zone harriot.fi/IN: not loaded due to errors.

;

;    File:      named.harriot

;

 

$TTL 864

 

@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (

         202008243      ; serial number

             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours

              7200      ; retry after 2 hours

            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks

              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days

 

harriot.fi.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi.

 

www                IN A 35.214.111.143

api                     IN A 35.214.111.143

webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi.

_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.

 

dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143

 

; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org ~all

 

; smtp_domainkey.mg             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"

 




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Re: CNAME / TXT

Kyongseon West
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How long is the character in txt line? If it’s longer than 255, it will show that exact error. Exact thing happened to me yesterday. 

You can separate with a quote to make it work. 


v/r,

Kathy West, CISSP
IT Services
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
<a href="tel:724-357-3216" dir="ltr" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="4">724-357-3216
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On Aug 22, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]> wrote:



Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…

Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:

C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi named.harriot

dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi: CNAME and other data

dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error

zone harriot.fi/IN: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data

zone harriot.fi/IN: not loaded due to errors.

;

;    File:      named.harriot

;

 

$TTL 864

 

@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (

         202008243      ; serial number

             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours

              7200      ; retry after 2 hours

            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks

              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days

 

harriot.fi.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi.

 

www                IN A 35.214.111.143

api                     IN A 35.214.111.143

webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi.

_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.

 

dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143

 

; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org ~all

 

; smtp_domainkey.mg             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"

 




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VS: CNAME / TXT

Jukka Pakkanen

401 characters… so that’a another problem. Thx.

 

Lähettäjä: Kyongseon West <[hidden email]>
Lähetetty: 23. elokuuta 2020 3:16
Vastaanottaja: Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]>
Kopio: [hidden email]
Aihe: Re: CNAME / TXT

 

How long is the character in txt line? If it’s longer than 255, it will show that exact error. Exact thing happened to me yesterday. 

 

You can separate with a quote to make it work. 

 

 

v/r,

Kathy West, CISSP
IT Services
Indiana University of Pennsylvania
<a href="tel:724-357-3216">724-357-3216
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On Aug 22, 2020, at 8:19 PM, Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]> wrote:



Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…

Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:

C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi named.harriot

dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi: CNAME and other data

dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error

zone harriot.fi/IN: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data

zone harriot.fi/IN: not loaded due to errors.

;

;    File:      named.harriot

;

 

$TTL 864

 

@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (

         202008243      ; serial number

             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours

              7200      ; retry after 2 hours

            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks

              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days

 

harriot.fi.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi.

 

www                IN A 35.214.111.143

api                     IN A 35.214.111.143

webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi.

_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.

 

dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143

 

; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org ~all

 

; smtp_domainkey.mg             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"

 





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VS: CNAME / TXT

Jukka Pakkanen
In reply to this post by Ben Croswell

Yes, I think the whole CNAME is useless here anyway.

These were the recommendations of this service provider, mailgun though..

Thx, Jukka

 

Lähettäjä: bind-users <[hidden email]> Puolesta Ben Croswell
Lähetetty: 23. elokuuta 2020 2:24
Vastaanottaja: ML BIND Users <[hidden email]>
Aihe: Re: CNAME / TXT

 

If you uncomment that mg CNAME you end up with a CNAME mx and TXT at the same node in to the DNS tree and that is illegal. That is why you get the error "cname and other data". The mx and txt are the other data. 

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 8:19 PM Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…

Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:

C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi named.harriot

dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi: CNAME and other data

dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error

zone harriot.fi/IN: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data

zone harriot.fi/IN: not loaded due to errors.

;

;    File:      named.harriot

;

 

$TTL 864

 

@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi. helpdesk.qnet.fi. (

         202008243      ; serial number

             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours

              7200      ; retry after 2 hours

            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks

              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days

 

harriot.fi.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi.

                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi.

                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi.

 

www                IN A 35.214.111.143

api                     IN A 35.214.111.143

webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi.

_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi.

 

dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143

 

; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org.

mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org ~all

 

; smtp_domainkey.mg             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"

 



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Re: VS: CNAME / TXT

Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.08.20 09:59, Jukka Pakkanen wrote:
>Yes, I think the whole CNAME is useless here anyway.

CNAME is useful, but it does not (and can not) work the way you want.

>These were the recommendations of this service provider, mailgun though..

where? the CNAME issue is long known and clarifies in RFC 2181, section
10.1. CNAME resource records
...published in 1997.


>Lähettäjä: bind-users <[hidden email]> Puolesta Ben Croswell
>Lähetetty: 23. elokuuta 2020 2:24
>Vastaanottaja: ML BIND Users <[hidden email]>
>Aihe: Re: CNAME / TXT
>
>If you uncomment that mg CNAME you end up with a CNAME mx and TXT at the same node in to the DNS tree and that is illegal. That is why you get the error "cname and other data". The mx and txt are the other data.
>On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 8:19 PM Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…
>
>Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:
>
>C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi<http://harriot.fi> named.harriot
>dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi<http://mg.harriot.fi>: CNAME and other data
>dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error
>zone harriot.fi/IN<http://harriot.fi/IN>: loading from master file named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data
>zone harriot.fi/IN<http://harriot.fi/IN>: not loaded due to errors.
>
>;
>;    File:      named.harriot
>;
>
>$TTL 864
>
>@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi<http://ns1.qnet.fi>. helpdesk.qnet.fi<http://helpdesk.qnet.fi>. (
>         202008243      ; serial number
>             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours
>              7200      ; retry after 2 hours
>            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks
>              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days
>
>harriot.fi<http://harriot.fi>.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143
>                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi<http://qntsrv8.qnet.fi>.
>                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi<http://qntsrv9.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi<http://ns1.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi<http://ns2.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi<http://ns3.qnet.fi>.
>                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi<http://ns1.z.fi>.
>                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi<http://ns2.z.fi>.
>
>www                IN A 35.214.111.143
>api                     IN A 35.214.111.143
>webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi<http://mail.qnet.fi>.
>_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi<http://mail.qnet.fi>.
>
>dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143
>
>; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org<http://eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org<http://mxa.eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org<http://mxb.eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org<http://eu.mailgun.org> ~all
>
>; smtp_domainkey.mg<http://smtp_domainkey.mg>             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"
>
>
>
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VS: VS: CNAME / TXT

Jukka Pakkanen
In their (mailgun) instructions to the client.  And then the client wanted us to include those to his zone.

CNAME of course is useful in general, but like I wrote, *here* it is not needed.

Jukka

On 23.08.20 09:59, Jukka Pakkanen wrote:
>Yes, I think the whole CNAME is useless here anyway.

CNAME is useful, but it does not (and can not) work the way you want.

>These were the recommendations of this service provider, mailgun though..

where? the CNAME issue is long known and clarifies in RFC 2181, section 10.1. CNAME resource records ...published in 1997.


>Lähettäjä: bind-users <[hidden email]> Puolesta Ben
>Croswell
>Lähetetty: 23. elokuuta 2020 2:24
>Vastaanottaja: ML BIND Users <[hidden email]>
>Aihe: Re: CNAME / TXT
>
>If you uncomment that mg CNAME you end up with a CNAME mx and TXT at the same node in to the DNS tree and that is illegal. That is why you get the error "cname and other data". The mx and txt are the other data.
>On Sat, Aug 22, 2020, 8:19 PM Jukka Pakkanen <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>Cannot figure out what is wrong here… must be something simple but
>after sitting in airplanes the last 40 hours and it’s 2am…
>
>Only when I comment out the two lines in the end of the named.harriot, it goes through and BIND load the zone. With those two lines, get the following:
>
>C:\DNS\etc\namedb>named-checkzone harriot.fi<http://harriot.fi>
>named.harriot
>dns_master_load: named.harriot:33: mg.harriot.fi<http://mg.harriot.fi>:
>CNAME and other data
>dns_rdata_fromtext: named.harriot:35: syntax error zone
>harriot.fi/IN<http://harriot.fi/IN>: loading from master file
>named.harriot failed: CNAME and other data zone harriot.fi/IN<http://harriot.fi/IN>: not loaded due to errors.
>
>;
>;    File:      named.harriot
>;
>
>$TTL 864
>
>@        IN SOA                              ns1.qnet.fi<http://ns1.qnet.fi>. helpdesk.qnet.fi<http://helpdesk.qnet.fi>. (
>         202008243      ; serial number
>             28800      ; refresh every 12 hours
>              7200      ; retry after 2 hours
>            604800      ; expire after 2 weeks
>              3600)     ; default ttl is 2 days
>
>harriot.fi<http://harriot.fi>.                                       IN A  35.214.111.143
>                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv8.qnet.fi<http://qntsrv8.qnet.fi>.
>                                                          IN MX     10 qntsrv9.qnet.fi<http://qntsrv9.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns1.qnet.fi<http://ns1.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns2.qnet.fi<http://ns2.qnet.fi>.
>                                                         IN NS     ns3.qnet.fi<http://ns3.qnet.fi>.
>                                                          IN NS     ns1.z.fi<http://ns1.z.fi>.
>                                                          IN NS     ns2.z.fi<http://ns2.z.fi>.
>
>www                IN A 35.214.111.143
>api                     IN A 35.214.111.143
>webmail            IN CNAME mail.qnet.fi<http://mail.qnet.fi>.
>_autodiscover._tcp      IN SRV 0 5 443 mail.qnet.fi<http://mail.qnet.fi>.
>
>dev                                                                               IN A      35.214.111.143
>
>; mg                                                                              IN CNAME eu.mailgun.org<http://eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxa.eu.mailgun.org<http://mxa.eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN MX                 10 mxb.eu.mailgun.org<http://mxb.eu.mailgun.org>.
>mg                                                                                 IN TXT                v=spf1 include:eu.mailgun.org<http://eu.mailgun.org> ~all
>
>; smtp_domainkey.mg<http://smtp_domainkey.mg>             IN TXT "k=rsa; p=MII-----AQAB"
>
>
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