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I am looking at a config file and seeing:
2017112100 ; serial 1H ; refresh 15 ; retry 1w ; expire 1H ; minimum Is that 15 15 seconds? I'm guess ion it should be 15m? -- ADVANCE TO THE REAR! _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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Bind does default to seconds.
However this is not the SOA record. Lyle On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: > I am looking at a config file and seeing: > > 2017112100 ; serial > 1H ; refresh > 15 ; retry > 1w ; expire > 1H ; minimum > > Is that 15 15 seconds? > > I'm guess ion it should be 15m? > _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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Am 02.02.2018 um 01:21 schrieb Lyle: > Bind does default to seconds. > However this is not the SOA record. surely, at least a part of it @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( 2017110901 ; Serial 1800 ; Refresh 600 ; Retry 1814400 ; Expire 900 ; Negative-TTL ); > On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: >> I am looking at a config file and seeing: >> >> 2017112100 ; serial >> 1H ; refresh >> 15 ; retry >> 1w ; expire >> 1H ; minimum >> >> Is that 15 15 seconds? >> I'm guess ion it should be 15m? Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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dns32 /data/bind 599 # host -t soa rhsoft.net
rhsoft.net has SOA record ns2.thelounge.net. hostmaster.thelounge.net. 2017123001 3600 1800 1814400 3600 dns32 /data/bind 600 # date Friday 02 February 2018 01:24 CST this is what I see, from my location, against rhsoft.net . Jerry On 02/02/18 00:48, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 02.02.2018 um 01:21 schrieb Lyle: >> Bind does default to seconds. >> However this is not the SOA record. > > surely, at least a part of it > > @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( > 2017110901 ; Serial > 1800 ; Refresh > 600 ; Retry > 1814400 ; Expire > 900 ; Negative-TTL > ); > >> On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: >>> I am looking at a config file and seeing: >>> >>> 2017112100 ; serial >>> 1H ; refresh >>> 15 ; retry >>> 1w ; expire >>> 1H ; minimum >>> >>> Is that 15 15 seconds? >>> I'm guess ion it should be 15m? Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
Re: [bind-users] Re: SOA settings
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Am 02.02.2018 um 08:26 schrieb Jerry Kemp: > dns32 /data/bind 599 # host -t soa rhsoft.net > rhsoft.net has SOA record ns2.thelounge.net. hostmaster.thelounge.net. > 2017123001 3600 1800 1814400 3600 > > dns32 /data/bind 600 # date > Friday 02 February 2018 01:24 CST > > this is what I see, from my location, against rhsoft.net and that you see a differnt view as my homenetwork does change what in the fact that this fields are part of the SOA record and not as pretended "However this is not the SOA record" if you feel better the same copy&paste from the public nameservers zonefile @ IN SOA ns2.thelounge.net. hostmaster.thelounge.net. ( 2017123001 ; Serial 3600 ; Refresh 1800 ; Retry 1814400 ; Expire 3600 ; Negative-TTL ); > On 02/02/18 00:48, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 02.02.2018 um 01:21 schrieb Lyle: >>> Bind does default to seconds. >>> However this is not the SOA record. >> >> surely, at least a part of it >> >> @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( >> 2017110901 ; Serial >> 1800 ; Refresh >> 600 ; Retry >> 1814400 ; Expire >> 900 ; Negative-TTL >> ); >> >>> On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: >>>> I am looking at a config file and seeing: >>>> >>>> 2017112100 ; serial >>>> 1H ; refresh >>>> 15 ; retry >>>> 1w ; expire >>>> 1H ; minimum >>>> >>>> Is that 15 15 seconds? >>>> I'm guess ion it should be 15m? _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Reindl Harald <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Am 02.02.2018 um 01:21 schrieb Lyle: >> >> Bind does default to seconds. >> However this is not the SOA record. > > > surely, at least a part of it > > @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( > 2017110901 ; Serial > 1800 ; Refresh > 600 ; Retry > 1814400 ; Expire > 900 ; Negative-TTL > ); > > Nope. https://memegenerator.net/instance/81230988 It is, at best, part of a simplified textural representation of an SOA record. And I'm not even willing to commit to that... :-P W >> On 02/01/18 18:08, lbutlr wrote: >>> >>> I am looking at a config file and seeing: >>> >>> 2017112100 ; serial >>> 1H ; refresh >>> 15 ; retry >>> 1w ; expire >>> 1H ; minimum >>> >>> Is that 15 15 seconds? >>> I'm guess ion it should be 15m? > > _______________________________________________ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to > unsubscribe from this list > > bind-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
Re: SOA settings
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In reply to this post by Lyle Giese
On 2018-02-01 17:21, Lyle wrote:
> Bind does default to seconds. > > > However this is not the SOA record. Who said it was a SOA record? _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Dave Warren via bind-users
<[hidden email]> wrote: > On 2018-02-01 17:21, Lyle wrote: >> >> Bind does default to seconds. >> >> >> However this is not the SOA record. > > > Who said it was a SOA record? Ooghf. You are right. The OP simply said "a config file", and we've all assumed. Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in good humor. Assuming that it *is* an SOA (which is a reasonable assumption at this point :0) ) yes, that is 15 seconds, and is almost definitely not what you want. RIPE has a suggestion ( https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-203 ), SWITCH.CH has some others (https://securityblog.switch.ch/2014/02/06/zone-file-recommendations/) , Peter Koch (related to the RIPE page :-)) had others: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-koch-dns-soa-values-01 The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. W > > > _______________________________________________ > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to > unsubscribe from this list > > bind-users mailing list > [hidden email] > https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
Re: SOA settings
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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst > ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in > good humor. Yes indeed :) > The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original > posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 > minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid > the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human readable as possible, and in my experience most humans work better with smaller numbers including units (especially under stress/pressure). Each to their own, obviously. _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On 2/2/18 2:57 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst > ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in > good humor. Wait... who are you guys??!? Happy Friday! _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Dave Warren <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote: >> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling amongst >> ourselves because we've know each other for a long time and this is in >> good humor. > > Yes indeed :) > >> The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original >> posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 >> minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid >> the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. > > I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human readable as possible, and in my experience most humans work better with smaller numbers including units (especially under stress/pressure). What?! You mean you still think in archaic units like hours and laghu and days and fortnights and similar?! Weird.... Do you measure length in alen? Or kyndemil? I use seconds for *everything* -- when pointy-haired boss types ask if I'm actually working on a project (instead of, you know, snarking on mailing lists) I tell them that I've put in "more than 2834 seconds in the past 2 weeks alone". The arbitrary precision and large number makes it sound like I've done way more than, you know, less than an hour. It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo [0] - this is only the first in a planned series; IIRC, the next one will cover the number of seconds needed to cook an egg to the desired yolk consistency, and the following one, for some unknown reason, helps you remember the gestation period of a muskrat. > > Each to their own, obviously. > Apparently. W P.S: You are welcome for the earworm. -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On 02/02/2018 04:00 PM, Warren Kumari wrote:
<SNIP> > It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you > are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal > work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo I prefer this - (slightly NFSW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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Speaking of units, University of Chicago Professor Nicholas Metropolis
(who had been one of the original Manhattan Project scientists at Los Alamos) remarked that the standard lecture period of 50 minutes lasted approximately 1 Micro-Century. On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 17:00:10 -0500 Warren Kumari <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Dave Warren <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:57, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> Hopefully Lewis knows / understand that we are just squabbling > >> amongst ourselves because we've know each other for a long time > >> and this is in good humor. > > > > Yes indeed :) > > > >> The actual values used are open to tuning, but in the original > >> posting, you, that was 15 seconds, and was *probably* a typo for 15 > >> minutes. I personally always use seconds in my zonefiles, and avoid > >> the new fangled hours / weeks / syntax. > > > > I'm the exact other way around, I prefer content to be as human > > readable as possible, and in my experience most humans work better > > with smaller numbers including units (especially under > > stress/pressure). > > What?! You mean you still think in archaic units like hours and laghu > and days and fortnights and similar?! Weird.... Do you measure length > in alen? Or kyndemil? > > I use seconds for *everything* -- when pointy-haired boss types ask if > I'm actually working on a project (instead of, you know, snarking on > mailing lists) I tell them that I've put in "more than 2834 seconds in > the past 2 weeks alone". The arbitrary precision and large number > makes it sound like I've done way more than, you know, less than an > hour. > > It only takes a few 2678400 seconds to get into this habit - if you > are having a hard time adjusting, I'd recommend Kris Allen's seminal > work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwYnG2DGbPo [0] - this is > only the first in a planned series; IIRC, the next one will cover the > number of seconds needed to cook an egg to the desired yolk > consistency, and the following one, for some unknown reason, helps you > remember the gestation period of a muskrat. > > > > > Each to their own, obviously. > > > > Apparently. > W > P.S: You are welcome for the earworm. > > > Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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Am 02.02.2018 um 18:04 schrieb Warren Kumari: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 1:48 AM, Reindl Harald <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> However this is not the SOA record. >> >> surely, at least a part of it >> >> @ IN SOA srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net. admin.rhsoft.net. ( >> 2017110901 ; Serial >> 1800 ; Refresh >> 600 ; Retry >> 1814400 ; Expire >> 900 ; Negative-TTL >> ); >> >> > > Nope. > > https://memegenerator.net/instance/81230988 WTF - this is the SOA record directly from a zone file - period > It is, at best, part of a simplified textural representation of an SOA > record. And I'm not even willing to commit to that... > :-P troll somewhere else or just read the subject SOA *settings* _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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On 2 Feb 2018, at 12:57, Warren Kumari [hidden email]> wrote:
> > ) yes, that is 15 seconds, and is almost definitely not what > you want. That's what I figured. I suspect, based on the spacing in the file, someone<1> inadvertently deleted the 'm'. Thanks all (and yes, that was /PART/ of an SOA record :) <1> me, almost certainly, but I'll deny it. -- Greedo didn't shoot first, motherfucker! _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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> Wait... who are you guys??!? Alan, you're the only one I've actually met. Are the rest are all Russian bots? Confidentiality Notice: This electronic message and any attachments may contain confidential or privileged information, and is intended only for the individual or entity identified above as the addressee. If you are not the addressee (or the employee or agent responsible to deliver it to the addressee), or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are hereby notified that you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of this message or any attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete this message from your system. _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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Что такое бот#$#^^#^&##!%&^@T%$!#&%$NO CARRIER On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 11:29 AM, <[hidden email]> wrote: From: "Alan Clegg" <[hidden email]> _______________________________________________ Please visit https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users to unsubscribe from this list bind-users mailing list [hidden email] https://lists.isc.org/mailman/listinfo/bind-users |
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